Brexit thread

[duke63]

Interesting reading.

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/opende ... s-bizarre/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Kwacky]

That's more than 5 years old.

Inequality gap has widened.

I saw a documentary about USA politics and it said that Americans are essentially democratic but the press is republican. That's the same here imo. This continuing drum breathing about an empire and the two world wars serves no purpose other than to distract people from seeing how much this country has changed.

We have constantly chosen to isolate ourselves from Europe and an effective way to do that is to highlight the differences rather than celebrate the similarities.

One thing that tickles me is that many of our privatised utilities are bought by European nations to get funds for public sector pensions.

[duke63]

If you want thick people.......

[Rossgo]

He was a miner. So hes not as thick as you think, he would of worked his socks off to put bread on his families table. Now we have people sitting on their arses getting paid a brand new flat, food, sky, broadband etc etc..something, I'm assuming you voted for when labour was last in power and is hard to stop.

Also he was stating for his local area he needed something new, labour were their MP now they have a tory MP. How is that stupid?

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[duke63]

I assume you didn’t read the last line.

[Rossgo]

Ok

We need to get rid of these political threads in my opinion. It doesn't seem to help anyone on here instead seems to try to wind people up for no apparent reason on the way we have voted. We voted, we need to move forward now as one

I really do try not to visit these threads, I need to try harder I think

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[duke63]

Move forward as one?

I’m looking forward to plenty of anarchy over the next five years.

[Rossgo]

See any different ideas or views and this is what anyone gets, sarkey comments. Was it yourself who said you will be on the next flight out of here if we voted tories and we are all racists? I can't remember I know someone did. Regardless the people who can't accept the vote are the people who are saying we will be fighting on the streets. The country has gone mad.



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[Kwacky]

I've lost count of the number of times people have said "get rid of this thread, it's driving people away" and I have and no one has come back to the forum.

Brexit is a monumental event in our political, social and economic history. Probably the biggest thing that's happened to us in the last 70 years. It's going to shape the entire future of our country for generations to come. How can we not talk about it?

It's not a busy forum, never has been. Most people have slipped off to their little WhatsApp groups and are happy there.

I could delete every single thread in this section and I guarantee you not one long gone member would return.

As I always say, it's up to an individual to decide which threads to read, which ones to reply to and which ones to ignore. There's a "Mark all read" option for a reason.

[Rossgo]

That's fair enough Kwacky and very well put. Yes I fully see that it is a very important historical moment. What is driving me up the wall is the very one viewed side of it all and the blow up about it all. Eg we are all racists or we are all scabs and no one will fight a corner against that so I feel like a corner needs to be fought.

I shall now retire until next time!

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[D41]

That's more than 5 years old.

Inequality gap has widened.

I saw a documentary about USA politics and it said that Americans are essentially democratic but the press is republican. That's the same here imo. This continuing drum breathing about an empire and the two world wars serves no purpose other than to distract people from seeing how much this country has changed.

???????????

That sounds a bit off, to be honest....at least that's been my experience.
As far as the political split goes, people here are pretty much neck-&-neck Republican/Democrat....and then another 30-odd % who don't seem to care.

As far as "the press"....I honestly don't know anymore....I expect each different paper takes it's own slant on matters.
As far as media in general, the push is usually in favour of Democrats. Guys like Rush Limbaugh stand out from the crowd as the lone voice of the G.O.P. - the talk shows - show business media in general, for that matter - including the "impartial" news shows, are very much pro-Democrat as a rule.

[Kwacky]

I meant democratic in the way they took and act. America is general more liberal than the press portrays

[Kwacky]

Rossgo, pretty much everyone pro brexit on this site has said they've had enough of the debate. There's plenty of people on the same side as you but they've decided not to put forward their side.

[Rossgo]

That's fair enough Kwacky. I do enjoy this forum and for the most part it is a friendly environment. I shall try to keep out of these type of threads!!

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[D6Nutz]

Johnson has also used his majority to drop from the bill several other concessions made to opposition MPs.

These include protections for workers’ rights, MPs getting a veto on any decision to extend the post-Brexit transition period, and the Commons having a say in the government’s negotiating mandate.

The bill means Johnson’s deal, which settles issues including citizens’ rights, the £39bn “divorce” bill, and the Irish border, can be ratified in the UK. 

Well that didn't take long did it.. My prediction of that this is just the start of the rights we are used to be dropped, and the list of broken promises will get longer as the process continues.

Say hello to zero employment rights, and border in the Irish sea for starters.

Source: Brexit: MPs Approve Boris Johnson’s Deal In Key Vote
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/ ... 08bab42214" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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[Kwacky]

We've already paid most of that divorce bill.

[duke63]

We will have USA workers rights by the end of this Parliament. I.e none

[D41]

I don't know who told you that workers in the U.S. don't have any rights, Duke...but whoever it was, is full of it.

[Kwacky]

No rights for paid leave
No paternity leave
Very little cover for sickness
Automatic termination of employment
No redress for unfair dismissal

https://www.peoplemanagement.co.uk/expe ... -must-know" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[D6Nutz]

No rights for paid leave
No paternity leave
Very little cover for sickness
Automatic termination of employment
No redress for unfair dismissal

https://www.peoplemanagement.co.uk/expe ... -must-know" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Meh.. those have been my standard rights for the last 8/9 years.

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