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Re: 2017 Honda Fireblade SP
Posted: 18 Aug 2017, 20:56
by Rossgo
I tend to agree, which is a bit annoying as I was seriously considering a blade (not a new one though). However it's opened my eyes up to the Gixxer.
After Frankies comments about the Beemer I seriously want to try the RR and R!
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Re: 2017 Honda Fireblade SP
Posted: 18 Aug 2017, 21:01
by Jack
try an R1 too if you get the chance
Re: 2017 Honda Fireblade SP
Posted: 18 Aug 2017, 21:18
by Rossgo
I would love too but I sat on one at the Suzuki dealers and I found the seat too wide so my little legs don't feel quite right. I always find the Yamahas too much for me so I will have to pass on test riding one
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Re: 2017 Honda Fireblade SP
Posted: 19 Aug 2017, 08:46
by Blade
I believe Triumph are rebranded Translogic QS .
I rode an Aprilla, Ducati and Triumph pretty much back to back and the QS on the Triumph was the smoothest by far.
Re: 2017 Honda Fireblade SP
Posted: 19 Aug 2017, 21:31
by Hondaboy63
Rossgo wrote:Blade - First of all with the Quickshifter I personally felt like I knew what I wanted and was pretty straight forward when selecting the gear, however I suppose that would be down to the person I felt like I was selecting no different to how I would select with any other bike. It was quick, instantly getting me to the next year BUT not smooth. Maybe with time you start to get the right feel for it but I am really comparing it to the Gixxer which personally I felt like I was at home straight away and was very smooth. It's very tough to beat in my opinion
Low revs it wasn't very nice, higher revs it felt incredibly smooth, it certainly had the quaility Honda feel to it. 30s and 40s personally didn't feel like it was happy and kept cutting in and out. I wish I could answer your question more precisely!!
I would recommend you trying one as you have the experience of owning Blades before so you will know what you are looking for in the bike
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Im curious to understand why you kept it in first gear, and it didn't feel right. Why did you not select second gear, during your test ride. We are all aware bikes perform better at higher revs, but thats trackdaying or pushing the bike on the road. The throttle response can be selected by different modes, like all 1litre bikes. My view point can be reflective, to which mode you selected, when taken the the bike out for a humble test ride.
Did the dealer select what mode to ride.
Re: 2017 Honda Fireblade SP
Posted: 19 Aug 2017, 21:38
by D6Nutz
Rossgo wrote:After Frankies comments about the Beemer I seriously want to try the RR and R!
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I can seriously recommend you do, after watching Frankie they are both very very good bikes.
Would be quite interesting to see what you think of the naked R version, as you tend to go more for a faired bike.
Re: 2017 Honda Fireblade SP
Posted: 20 Aug 2017, 02:19
by Rossgo
Hondaboy63 - I personally felt like I gave it a fair ride through 30s to nationals and did try all gears but I won't stick it in 6th and stay there! The mode was selected by the dealer I had no involvement in changing that.
I'm not slating the Blade it's just it felt soulless to me, like the Honda lads just went for the technical side to it all instead of the "I'm too drunk to drink....wheres the next pub" situation!!
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Re: 2017 Honda Fireblade SP
Posted: 20 Aug 2017, 08:41
by Rossgo
Nutz - I really want to give them a go, and when I do I'll make a little review of them both.fingers crossed I'll be able to do it soon!
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Re: 2017 Honda Fireblade SP
Posted: 21 Aug 2017, 09:55
by duke63
In PB mag this month, the SP failed the noise test at Donington on the standard cans and was black flagged.
Re: 2017 Honda Fireblade SP
Posted: 21 Aug 2017, 10:17
by Blade
Was on a quiet day I think but yeah not good really.
Re: 2017 Honda Fireblade SP
Posted: 21 Aug 2017, 21:20
by Rossgo
I'm shocked at that for standard cans!
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Re: 2017 Honda Fireblade SP
Posted: 22 Aug 2017, 08:40
by Deegee
Iirc a lot of standard exhaust systems have been failing noise tests, Castle Combe is the worst as they use a different criteria to usual Blue Book method, but it's only the stubby GP style cans that fail and after they've done a few thousand miles.
Re: 2017 Honda Fireblade SP
Posted: 22 Aug 2017, 13:58
by D6Nutz
Deegee wrote:Iirc a lot of standard exhaust systems have been failing noise tests, Castle Combe is the worst as they use a different criteria to usual Blue Book method, but it's only the stubby GP style cans that fail and after they've done a few thousand miles.
Check out the list of bikes that say may fail their noise test..
In our experience the following machines may NOT pass our strict limits:
Any make & model of bike with short type side silencers
BMW S1000 RR
Ducati 748/749/916/996/998/999, fitted with Termignoni open pipes
(but any of the above with standard pipes SHOULD pass)
Ducati 1098R
Ducati 1198
Ducati Multistrada (2011 + 2013)
Ducati Panigale - all models
Honda CBR1000RR: 2008-2015
Kawasaki ZX10 - 2009 and 2010 model
KTM RC8
Suzuki GSXR600 K6
Suzuki GSXR600 K7
Suzuki GSXR 750 K6
Suzuki GSXR 750 K7
Suzuki GSXR1000 K6 - 2006 model with standard exhaust
Suzuki GSXR1000 K7
Suzuki GSXR1000 K8
Triumph 675 - 2009 model (short type side can)
Yamaha R6 2006-current
Yamaha R6 - 2009 model (short type side can)
Yamaha R1 2008-current
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Re: 2017 Honda Fireblade SP
Posted: 22 Aug 2017, 17:39
by Deegee
Ouch!! That list makes for some sombre reading as far as std cans go, I don't remember it being anywhere near that extensive, but then tbh I haven't been on track for four years so I'm a bit out of touch.
Re: 2017 Honda Fireblade SP
Posted: 22 Aug 2017, 17:40
by Blade
It's ridiculous. Perfectly road legal motorcycles are too noisy for the track.
The mot doesn't have a specified noise limit.
Granted some bikes can be very loud but failing a road legal bike with oem can is ridiculous. Just ride to the main entrance and rev the nuts of it all day. Perfectly legal
Re: 2017 Honda Fireblade SP
Posted: 22 Aug 2017, 18:22
by D6Nutz
Ridiculous it may be, but like all other circuits the annual noise limits are set by the council.
And we all know how much sense your average politician makes......