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Collapsed CAT or Lego bricks

Posted: 03 Sep 2016, 13:02
by Monty
[video]https://vimeo.com/181301209[/video]

I've not ridden the bike for over 3 weeks and so far only taken the can off and had a look in the baffle box.

The bike is going into the garage on Monday for it's first chain and sprockets, I'm not doing the first front sprocket change on a Kwak. So thinking I might get them to take the headers off and knock out the CATs while it's in. Or just retrieve the Lego bricks!

Re: Collapsed CAT or Lego bricks

Posted: 03 Sep 2016, 13:49
by Kwacky
No idea. It does sound like thick plastic.

How many miles have you got on the clock.

Re: Collapsed CAT or Lego bricks

Posted: 03 Sep 2016, 13:53
by Monty
About 8k now, it started a few weeks after I fitted the can

Re: Collapsed CAT or Lego bricks

Posted: 03 Sep 2016, 14:14
by Kwacky
Weird. The CAT shouldn't have fallen apart so soon.

Re: Collapsed CAT or Lego bricks

Posted: 03 Sep 2016, 14:30
by Monty
I've found one example of it happening on the Internet, and strangely it happened just after he'd fitted an aftermarket can.

I hope it is the CAT, they were coming out this winter anyway and was going to fit a pinebox

Re: Collapsed CAT or Lego bricks

Posted: 03 Sep 2016, 14:36
by Itchy
Do a massive wheelie down the road, hoefully the Lego will just fall out!

Re: Collapsed CAT or Lego bricks

Posted: 03 Sep 2016, 15:11
by Kwacky
Maybe the gasses are hotter so cause it to crumble?

Re: Collapsed CAT or Lego bricks

Posted: 03 Sep 2016, 18:13
by Deegee
Kwacky wrote:Maybe the gasses are hotter so cause it to crumble?
Cats do get very hot, iirc the early 675's had a problem with them overheating and deforming which led to partial blockage of the exhaust and a fair bit of power loss, the engines ran weaker with an aftermarket can (less back pressure), and a weak mixture is a hotter mixture - adding to quicker cat failure.

Re: Collapsed CAT or Lego bricks

Posted: 04 Sep 2016, 22:06
by duke63
Did you remove the exhaust valve and disconnect all the cables when you changed the exhaust?

Re: Collapsed CAT or Lego bricks

Posted: 05 Sep 2016, 11:34
by Monty
Deegee wrote:
Kwacky wrote:Maybe the gasses are hotter so cause it to crumble?
Cats do get very hot, iirc the early 675's had a problem with them overheating and deforming which led to partial blockage of the exhaust and a fair bit of power loss, the engines ran weaker with an aftermarket can (less back pressure), and a weak mixture is a hotter mixture - adding to quicker cat failure.
That's what I was thinking (hoping)

Re: Collapsed CAT or Lego bricks

Posted: 05 Sep 2016, 11:37
by Monty
duke63 wrote:Did you remove the exhaust valve and disconnect all the cables when you changed the exhaust?
No still there and connected, it's built into the Akro. First thing I checked, took the can off and it's fine.

Dropping it off at the garage this lunch time.

Re: Collapsed CAT or Lego bricks

Posted: 06 Sep 2016, 11:00
by Monty
Garage phoned and there's something loose and rattling around behind the CATs. They are knocking them out as we speak, can't wait to hear what it sounds like.

Re: Collapsed CAT or Lego bricks

Posted: 06 Sep 2016, 16:54
by Monty
Sorted, the first CAT had come loose and was rattling on the second one. Sounds much better now and loads of pops and bangs

So glad I didn't try and fit those new sprockets, theres no way I could have got the front sprocket off. Their own impact driver couldn't budge it and they had to borrow one off the Snap-On rep

Re: Collapsed CAT or Lego bricks

Posted: 06 Sep 2016, 20:21
by Kwacky
Kwaks are known for that tight front sprocket.

Glad it's all sorted.

Re: Collapsed CAT or Lego bricks

Posted: 06 Sep 2016, 21:03
by duke63
I bet that spent 1 minute fishing out a lego brick and then charged Monty for a few hours labour to remove the offending CAT. :D

Re: Collapsed CAT or Lego bricks

Posted: 12 Sep 2016, 21:01
by D41
Monty wrote: So glad I didn't try and fit those new sprockets, theres no way I could have got the front sprocket off. Their own impact driver couldn't budge it and they had to borrow one off the Snap-On rep

You can't just use a cheater bar to take it off??

Well....not now, but you know what I mean.