Daytona 600 Fuel tank ELECTRICAL plug (not fuel connection)

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Daytona 600 Fuel tank ELECTRICAL plug (not fuel connection)

Postby kiwikrasher » 05 Apr 2016, 08:02

Somewhere along the way while my bike has been in bits the 4 pin plug to the base of the fuel tank got damaged. I cut it off and put small spade connectors on the wires so I could still run the bike. I've searched and searched but can't find a OEM plug to refit.

So my plan is to connect the spade connectors then pot them in. Then splice in a generic 4 pin plug on the loom about 5-10 cms away from the tank.

I measured the wire (insulated thickness) at 1.7mm. Looking at DT4 plugs online it states wire size but is that bare wire or insulated thickness?

I'm reasonably apt at wiring stuff but bugger all knowledge on specs and such, so if someone can steer me in the right direction would be most appreciated (y)
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Re: Daytona 600 Fuel tank plug

Postby StMarks » 05 Apr 2016, 08:20

kiwikrasher wrote:..I measured the wire (insulated thickness) at 1.7mm. Looking at DT4 plugs online it states wire size but is that bare wire or insulated thickness?

By default flex & cable is always measured by conductor diameter mate.
If you think about it , the insulation will be removed to go into connector anyway.
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Re: Daytona 600 Fuel tank plug

Postby Deegee » 05 Apr 2016, 09:17

What StM said, it's just the bare wire that's measured as that's the only bit that matters spec wise. Be careful measuring multi-strand wire as it deforms as you use Verniers or a micrometer on it, I've had best results measuring m/s immediately next to the insulation.
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Re: Daytona 600 Fuel tank plug

Postby kiwikrasher » 05 Apr 2016, 09:17

StMarks wrote:
kiwikrasher wrote:..I measured the wire (insulated thickness) at 1.7mm. Looking at DT4 plugs online it states wire size but is that bare wire or insulated thickness?

By default flex & cable is always measured by conductor diameter mate.
If you think about it , the insulation will be removed to go into connector anyway.
Hth.


Cheers St Marks, I thought that might be the case. I measured it in a hurry and now not where the bike is. I'll have another go if I get up there tomorrow.
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Re: Daytona 600 Fuel tank plug

Postby DaytonAndy » 05 Apr 2016, 10:08

Have you seen this?
http://www.thetriumphforum.co.uk/thread ... blem.1346/
Is that the part?
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Re: Daytona 600 Fuel tank plug

Postby DaytonAndy » 05 Apr 2016, 10:09

Don't think it is actually, sorry to get your hopes up! My skim read wasn't good enough:(
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Re: Daytona 600 Fuel tank plug

Postby kiwikrasher » 05 Apr 2016, 11:15

Ha ha no worries DaytonAndy, and I sorted those before the crash. Got metal plugs and a swag of spare o-rings so all sweet in that regard.

Thanks all the same :)
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Re: Daytona 600 Fuel tank plug

Postby D6 » 05 Apr 2016, 17:40

Do you mean part number T1240970 ?
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Re: Daytona 600 Fuel tank plug

Postby D6 » 05 Apr 2016, 21:25

is it number 17?
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Re: Daytona 600 Fuel tank plug

Postby kiwikrasher » 05 Apr 2016, 21:40

Yup.

Well the bit on the loom that plugs into that. Hard to tell from that pic if it's both bits or not.
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Re: Daytona 600 Fuel tank plug

Postby D41 » 06 Apr 2016, 10:00

Not sure if it's any help, but there was a recall on that part a gazillion years ago, Or if not a recall there was defo a replacement brass version as the orig. part would shear off....usually when you take the tank off for the first time and break the fecker and spill gas all over the floor...I just remember going in to the dealer and they gave me the part no questions asked. They had a perverse logic to it which kinda made sense...the part was fine until you took the tank off....once you did then the part became necessary, but few owners ever get to the stage where they are replacing the fuel filter....whatever.
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Re: Daytona 600 Fuel tank plug

Postby kiwikrasher » 06 Apr 2016, 10:13

That's the fuel quick disconnect D, I'm trying to sort the electrical plug. I modded the fuel connections many moons ago.
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Re: Daytona 600 Fuel tank plug

Postby kiwikrasher » 06 Apr 2016, 10:16

D6 wrote:is it number 17?


Are you able to use your position to source one D6? I've had no luck via the web.
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Re: Daytona 600 Fuel tank ELECTRICAL plug (not fuel connecti

Postby kiwikrasher » 06 Apr 2016, 10:21

Actually scrap that. I remembered (after another search on that part number) the plug I need is part of the loom and plugs into that part. That's why I wa shaving trouble sourcing it individually.

I'll just mic up the bare wire and buy a DT4 plug as per my original work around.
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Re: Daytona 600 Fuel tank ELECTRICAL plug (not fuel connecti

Postby D6 » 06 Apr 2016, 12:03

Ahh if you cut it off the harness i cant help. Sorry.
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Re: Daytona 600 Fuel tank ELECTRICAL plug (not fuel connecti

Postby kiwikrasher » 06 Apr 2016, 12:05

D6 wrote:Ahh if you cut it off the harness i cant help. Sorry.


Yeah I did, it got munched. Not entirely sure how but that bike has been put together and pulled apart so many times in the last 4 years I'm lucky that's all that got buggered.
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Re: Daytona 600 Fuel tank ELECTRICAL plug (not fuel connecti

Postby kiwikrasher » 25 Apr 2016, 09:26

After confirming my planned fix with a electrician (who is into bikes and just fully rebuilt his K1200) I'm now confident I'm on the right track. Just going to pot the spade connectors into the fuel tank side plug with epoxy and fit one of these in the loom so I can still disconnect the tank electrically

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Re: Daytona 600 Fuel tank ELECTRICAL plug (not fuel connecti

Postby StMarks » 25 Apr 2016, 09:30

kiwikrasher wrote:....... Just going to pot the spade connectors into the fuel tank side plug with epoxy and fit one of these in the loom so I can still disconnect the tank electrically

Fwiw that sounds to me like a very sensible fix.
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Re: Daytona 600 Fuel tank ELECTRICAL plug (not fuel connecti

Postby Yammyr4 » 03 Jun 2016, 22:38

Hi Kwik, just seen this, and I have a butchered loom in the garage. I can look and see if the fuel pump connector is still on it, if it is I can cut it off with as much as possible and send it to you. Then the plug will still the standard one and you can solder the wires together and then tape up to make it look 'original'
Will look in the morning.

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Re: Daytona 600 Fuel tank ELECTRICAL plug (not fuel connecti

Postby kiwikrasher » 03 Jun 2016, 23:11

Cheers for the thought Mark, but I've sorted it, my bad should have updated the thread.

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